Former EFF Executive Director Cindy Cohn talks with Daniel Bernstein, whom she represented in a landmark legal case 30 years ago that set the stage for the modern internet - and with the DOJ lawyer who opposed them. Hear Ep.2 of our "Privacy’s Defenders" podcast: “No Privacy Without Encryption.” https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/10/privacys-defenders-podcast-no-privacy-without-encryption