Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/
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DOJ says barring AI training on copyrighted material could 'severely hamper' tech progress
Training a model on copyrighted work is the same transformative use exception that protects The New York Times' journalism.
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@eff Fuck me. We really needed you on our side regarding this. Terrible, worst approach possible from the EFF.
@eff can you elaborate what this means for "clean room" implementations? Just running it through an LLM would follow the same logic? (honest question; haven't seen rulings/opinions/news about this)
@eff Hell fucking NO.
@eff Do kindly go and fuck yourself.
@eff
Sorry, what? Definitely no.
@eff i guess it is only theft if you aren't a billionaire? you had one job eff and you failed. protecting the rich was not it. grow a spine and fight for EVERYBODY not your tech bros
@eff You have lost all credibility and are out of touch with the general populace.
@eff mass theft isn't a good look.
On top of that, why does Reason try to access my camera when I visit the page?
#Privacy
@eff interested to see what @pluralistic has to say about this…
@eff
This is a horrible take and I've just lost insurmountable amounts of respect for your organization
@eff I just read the article
I agree
Oof. Not the take I would have expected from you.
The fact that a well crafted prompt can pull near identical data from the training source shows this is not the case.
Touch grass, @eff, I think you have spent too much time online.
@eff nope. you just lost a multi decade donor and will likely lose more.
@eff excuse me what the hell is this
@eff
This is the correct line. Fuck anyone defending IP for any reason.
@eff this.... is an insane, tone deaf, basically tech illiterate take on "transformative use" and im utterly shocked to see EFF publish this. Ive been funding EFF for years... and this is the first time I've had STRONG doubts about my support.
This should be reviewed, reconsidered.
@eff showing your defense-industrial complex roots again, I see.